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Bryan · A Forum Mentor

Abolish 35% Peak Hour Surcharge

Poolman II · A Forum Mentor

But again ..... if u guys come to think of it ....

This 35% peak hour is good for OMO to cover rental easier .....

Comfort implemented this fare , i think they palce OMO as priorites .

Cos garmen always wanted One driver One taxi system .

Poolman II · A Forum Mentor

I have said that in Sgforum , every current fare is justifiable , airport charge , Expo , cbd etc ..... xcept this 35% is ridiculous , there must be a balance , between Supply and Demand .
This fare just never met any logic between Supply & demand .

This fare caused over supply and less demand .

if 20% peak hour surcharge , it will balance up more , good supply and average demand .

I still insist this peak hour remains , but that 35% way too much .

20% just nice ... in the event the demand surge , then up again to 25% , if demand goes down , down 22% ...

There must be a breaking point , where supply meet demand , swee swee .

-- Edited by Poolman II on Thursday 10th of September 2009 04:19:27 PM

fairfare · Senior Guru

my feel is that supply & demand has little to do with peak hour surcharge...lower surcharge more demand yes...you earn more therefore more people take up taxis...back to square one.

the key word here is "quota" in releasing taxis by garmen

the men in white controls quota to release land for condo...build HDB flats...allowing fallen talents to our shores etc etc base on supply & demand.

Now after spending billions on MRT...the supply for transport is there...so how to get the demand??

One way is to impose these surcharges to depress taxi industries so that commuters will opt for trains...at the same time give the sense of security to TDs to tie over poor demands.

with the ever increase of taxis on the roads...and the drop of paxs...the sense of security eroded day by day.

the only hope is for the lauya tpt mister to regulate quota for taxis on the road...this will improve traffic congestion & improve taxi service as less sour faces in the industries.

so we ask ourselves...are the cabbies in singapore united like some neighboring countires...who represent cabbies here...ahh also sheeps in white clothing

donsan · A Forum Mentor

Pardon me....Singapore cabbies on the road are among the least united in this region.
You all, on the road, know better.

By the way, I wonder who decides the implementation of locations surcharges ?
LTA, Taxi companies or location authorities ??

bridgestone · Guru

A Saturday 17:30 sent pax from T1 to Hilton Hotel, $5 surcharge + 35% could make up total fare $20+.

On ECP just before Bedok starting big jam, didn't know what happened, speed less than 10km/hr snail moving. Alama, finally saw few white ants aux bike came out escorted big trunk of mini cooper. Mini cut to center lane so aux stopped all incoming veh, big jam until Rochor. I wanna cut to the left lane exit rochor from ECP, white ant sirren me asked me stop road side wait wait wait until all mini passed.

At last reached Hilton, fare $39, forty dollars keep the change.

Why many obstructions like road works, trees pruning on the road during peak hour. Try to frighten potential taxi commuters? Dear officers, please polish your brain.

tiny168 · Guru

So wats the conclusion?

stkee · Guru

Seems like there are many micro topics in this tread...??? Very confused liao....

bridgestone · Guru

Anybody know how % is calculated?
Peak hour 35% why not 30%, 37.3% or 40%?
CBD surcharge $3, why not $2 or $5?

As far as I know mid night 50% is followed overtime pay standard 1.5xBasic, I catch no ball how 35% is defined.

Any bro earns more within peak period than normal hour?
My record collection during peak is approx equals norml hour in average.
I second abolish 35% peak surcharge.

tiny168 · Guru

Think too much liao.

lazybone · A Forum Mentor

For me, peak hour mean must start meter.
I work hard during peak hours.
My peak hour earning is always higher than normal hour, unless the connection is bad.

Anh Map · New Member

lazybone wrote:

For me, peak hour mean must start meter.
I work hard during peak hours.
My peak hour earning is always higher than normal hour, unless the connection is bad.

I agree. My evening peak hour average will cover my rental and diesel for that shift.
If connection good, can earn dinner , supper and smoke too. So to me, evening
peak die die have to drive . After that comes profit.

Poolman II · A Forum Mentor

donsan wrote:

Pardon me....Singapore cabbies on the road are among the least united in this region.
You all, on the road, know better.

By the way, I wonder who decides the implementation of locations surcharges ?
LTA, Taxi companies or location authorities ??

I ever complaint to LTA about this surcharges , email to them la , they replied to me that the price is not set by them , by taxi company Comfort .

Then they wash hand off this issue lor ?

Good question by Donsan , my question goes back to LTA .

Then why must all companies comply with the price change ?

I dun believe all taxi companies agree with the price settings .

LTA , in this issue , i still think they are the mastermind behind the curtain .

Poolman II · A Forum Mentor

I dunno about United .

But between 9pm to 11pm , most cabby in town is unite by not taking pax outside CBD .

Not all never take , but i observe , 10 taxis , at least 7 dun take when flag .

stkee · Guru

Bro Poolman,

FYI, the current fare structure is determined by the individual cab coys. Your current cab coy is free to determine its own fare structure without following what Comfort or any other conpany is doing. But will you still rent a cab from your current coy? I still remember when all the cab coys raised their fare, Prime taxi insist that they will not follow, but what happen in the end? All the cabbies requested the coy to follow the raise because they feel a bite into their own income...

Just imagine if your coy follows all the suggestions that you have said here...

1) "implement location $2 surcharge toselected taxi stands outside cbd . From 8pm to 12am "
Pax will try to avoid your coy cabs...

2) "CBD start from Newton area , Novena , Tekka , Rce Course Road , Owen Road , Golden Mile , North Bridge Road , Harborfront , SGH "
Pax will try to avoid your coy cabs...

3) "20% peak hour surcharge"
Your takings for every trip will be 10% less than all other cabs...

Do you think your biz will be better? How many current transcab cabbies will return cab and jump ship?

The reason why all the cab coys is following the same structures is because

1) currently, we have 5 cab coys, just imagine the confusion if all 5 coys have different fares?

2) the smaller coys are afraid that if they don't follow the "big brothers" cabbies may not rent cabs from them...

3) the smaller coys don't have the resources and means to do in-depth market research and surveys to come out with a totally new fare structures.

4) the ultimate goal of all the cab coy is to rent out as much cab as possible to generate a big income. All are basically car rental companies. Their income comes from rental and not fares.

So what can be done?

The amount of cab allowed to be registered and on the road should be limited to a certain ratio... The current ration is way off the scale. Just for comparision, Hong Kong which is a city most closely like Singapore.

Hong Kong'scurrent populations is approx. 7 008 300 mid 2009.
Hong Kong's current taxi populations approx. 18 138.
Hong Kong's taxi to population to taxi ratio is 1:386

Singapore's current populations is 4 839 400 end 2008.
Singapore's current taxi populations approx. 24 402.
Singapore's taxi to population to taxi ratio is 1:198

And to make things worst, our currentbasic cab fares is approx. 40% cheaper than HKs'. Please refer to my previous posting on cab fares.
http://taxiuncle.activeboard.com/index.spark?aBID=120432&p=3&topicID=18021800

If the amount of taxis on the road is reduced to half of its current size, and fares are increased atleast 40%, than it will set the scene that taxis is a premium public transport service and demand and supply will fall into place. Because, only those that really need to and can afford will take a taxi. Which is the case with many other developed countries worldwide. You don't see school students and maids booking a cab to go to school or market in many other developed countries...

I know this is a long post, but I feel a need to do it as there are many debate and discussion on this topic. It is just my 5 cents worth. Lets hope that STC will grow big and powerful enough to lead changes for the current taxi industries to go forward into future...

smile

Thanks and may the force be with you... smile

-- Edited by stkee on Saturday 12th of September 2009 09:14:57 AM

-- Edited by stkee on Saturday 12th of September 2009 09:16:06 AM